Screwed around with this for 30 minutes (trying to download it!!!!). Login, enter info, login again, go to cart. Login, enter billing info. Never did get around to actually getting the program. Others have mentioned it is an old program, so sometimes things just work out for the best. If TRAINZ can’t even figure out an easier way to GIVE this away, they don’t really want to give it away. I’m done wasting my time with this or that “company”.