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  • #13892080 Reply | Quote

    Ashraf
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    #13895804 Reply | Quote

    Peter Blaise

    I don’t know what’s so “easy” about Hasleo EasyUEFI WinToHDD products … I’ve tried every giveaway of theirs for over a year now and have never figured out how to get them to do anything.

    Let’s explore their web page tease:

    Reinstall Windows directly from ISO, WIM, ESD without using CD/DVD/USB.
    • Install Windows onto a second hard drive directly from ISO, WIM, ESD without using CD/DVD/USB.
    • Clone Windows operating system to new hard disk or SSD.
    • Hot clone Windows without restarting the clone source computer.
    • Install any version of Windows 10/8/7/Vista/2016/2012/2008 (64 & 32 bits) from same USB drive on both BIOS and UEFI computers.
    • Fully Compatible with GPT/UEFI.

    So … we gotta have an ISO, WIM, ESD? Quick, everyone, what are they, where are they, and or how do we get or make them?

    Don’t need a USB … but install any version from a USB … but, how do I clone a laptop hard drive to another hard drive without attaching a USB hard drive, is this only for internal-mount drive cloning?

    Okay, in spite of it’s claiming to clone without a USB, it finds a USB hard drive ( in spite of it’s claims to need an ISO, WIM, ESD, and not need USB ).

    Now choose … MBR for BIOS … GTP for UEFI … or “keep existing partition scheme” … but no clue as to what the existing is or why to choose one of the others … so are there three or more possibilities, where the program can clone, or convert to two different formats?

    And then shows two potential partition layouts that are identical and asks to choose a system partition and a boot partition, neither of which can be done, as there are no selection devices or radio buttons or checkboxes or highlight capabilities OR SUGGESTIONS ( nor do I care to understand ) … and this is supposed to be “easy”!

    The supposed “help” opens a web page ( so this doesn’t work off the web ? ), and their own webpage says:

    A single partition may be both a system and a boot partition.

    … and, more importantly, their webpage “help” does not even show their own program or how to select, decide, or why do we even have choices, cloning is supposed to be cloning, just make a copy of the drive, please, just make a copy of the drive, oh please, please, please, just make a copy of the drive.

    Regardless, I cannot proceed. there is only the [ Back ] button.

    Let’s try another USB-attached hard drive.

    Now I get the options to highlight responses to “system partition” and “boot partition”.

    There is no system partition nor boot partition on a target clone drive, it is to be considered blank.

    Apparently this program can do nothing on it’s own, it has absolutely no intelligence, no automation, no smarts, no savvy.

    I give up.

    Does ANYONE have success?

    Has anyone produced a script for successful use of this program?

    Please, do share.
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    Alternatively, I have no problem removing a laptop hard drive, and in the process, remove heat-holding shrouds, and dremel out holes in the laptop cabinet to improve subsequent ventilation.

    I’ve been cloning in a dual sata usb 3 dock, push one button and walk away, no computer necessary or co-opted or preoccupied.

    THAT’S easy.

    Microcenter sells a dual sata usb 3 cloning dock for $30, and can be used for twin online drives between cloning activities.

    NOT a giveaway, but a whole lot better time saver than the time waster than Hasleo EasyUEFI WinToHDD at any price — where free is not free, really.
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    #13896247 Reply | Quote

    consuella

    Thank you Peter. Your post is a time saver for me.(I am a working student).
    Thank you for your time and for your very helpful review.

    Best Regards,

    consu-ella

    #13896432 Reply | Quote

    Peter Blaise

    [@consuella] you’re welcome.

    I just wasted HOURS trying to get this program to clone the active boot drive to an external USB 2 drive.

    It took a few hours once started, fingers crossed that I made the right choices.

    After “cloning”, it can be seen by the creating PC.

    Another PC can’t see the cloned drive at all in it’s original USB housing.

    Another PC sees the cloned drive as a blank drive.

    Switch the cloned drive into a different USB housing, and then another PC can see ONLY a Windows partition, not the “system reserved” from the original hard drive that the WinToHDD supposedly cloned from.

    What an unholy mess and complete and total waste of time this Hasleo EasyUEFI WinToHDD giveaway … more like throwaway.

    I’d tell the vendor what cloning means, because WinToHDD is NOT cloning, but I’m afraid that they would not understand.

    From their website, grok this:

    How to do System Clone or System Migration?

    Home > WinToHDD > Resource

    2016-1-31, Posted by Admin to System Clone Software

    As a system clone software, WinToHDD can help you to clone your current Windows OS installation (Windows 10, Windows 8, Windows 7 or Windows Vista) to another disk (HDD/SSD).
    As its name implies, the system clone means to make an exact copy of the original operating system to another storage device such as a hard disk drive (HDD) or a solid state drive (SSD).
    It not only copies the operating system files, but also the installed applications and other custom settings, so you don’t need to reinstall the applications and reconfigure the operating system after cloning.

    Tutorial to do System Clone or System Migration with WinToHDD.

    Step 1. Click to open the WinToHDD installation file.
    Follow the steps in the setup dialogs.
    You’ll have the option to specify where to install WinToHDD.

    Step 2. Please use the following guidelines to prepare the partitions on the destination hard disk drive.

    Booting BIOS-based computers:
    – Please convert the hard drive to MBR partition scheme and create the system and boot partitions.
    – The system partition can be FAT32 or NTFS format and the boot partition must be NTFS format.
    – The system partition and boot partition can be the same partition.
    – Booting UEFI-based computers: Please convert the hard drive to GPT partition scheme and create the EFI system partition (ESP) and boot partition.
    – The EFI system partition must be FAT32 format and the boot partition must be NTFS format.

    Tips:
    – Both the system and boot partition must be primary partition, and we recommend using Windows built-in Disk Management (diskmgmt.msc) to partition and format the disk.
    – If you use a third-party partitioning tool to format the partitions, Windows may not boot properly.
    – The destination boot partition must be 20% larger than the used space on source boot partition.
    If the destination system partition is FAT32 format, then it must be greater than or equal to 40 MB and less than or equal to 32 GB. (The recommended size is 500 MB.)
    – Sector by sector clone option enables you to clone all sectors from source boot partition to destination boot partition.
    If you have formatted the wrong hard disk, then you can use our Free Data Recovery Software Hasleo Data Recovery to recover your lost files.

    Step 3. Run WinToHDD as administrator, then click the System Clone Icon button.

    Select System Clone icon

    Step 4. Select the Windows OS installation which you want to clone in the drop-down list, you will see the detailed system information under it, click “Next” if you are sure.

    System Clone icon

    Step 5. Select the destination disk in the drop-down list, then select the boot partition and system partition from the partition list, the selected partitions will be marked as red.

    Select target partition icon

    Step 6. Click “Next”.
    After clicking “Next”, WinToHDD begins cloning Windows to the destination disk.
    Please note that if the destination disk is currently in use, then WinToHDD needs to create a WinPE image and reboot into WinPE to complete the cloning operation.

    cloning windows to destination disk icon

    Step 7. It takes some time to clone.
    After the clone is successful completed, restart the computer and change BIOS to boot from your hard disk drive.

    Follow these simple steps, you can migrate Windows OS to hard disk drive with free system clone software WinToHDD easily.

    Notice the last line “… follow these simple steps …” all dozen or so critical and complex choices with zero assistance from a dumb hammer of a program.

    And it’s FREE anyway, there was absolutely no need to have wasted our time on a giveaway site where vendors are expected to offer something of value in exchange for feedback and occupation on our systems instead of their competition.
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    #13902375 Reply | Quote

    John

    Peter, I couldn’t agree with your conclusions more on this software. Either it is made for a tech genius (or certainly someone more knowledgeable than me, and that ain’t sayin’ much) or it really doesn’t do much of anything.

    I remember having the same reaction as you when I downloaded, installed and tried out this software before. I can’t say how much I appreciate the opportunity to try out these various daily offerings, however, there comes a point when you just have to surrender something as just too time consuming and confusing…and that is what I categorize this as.

    When you read the description you tell yourself, “wow, this is just what I need,” but in reality it puts you on the road to frustration and not much else.

    I tried it before, so I will skip this go round, but I thank you for your comments which validated the experience last time I had with the software.

    PS Please no more annoying picture Captchas. Thank you

    #13902760 Reply | Quote

    HarFanG

    I’ve been cloning in a dual sata usb 3 dock, push one button and walk away, no computer necessary or co-opted or preoccupied.

    THAT’S easy.

    Microcenter sells a dual sata usb 3 cloning dock for $30, and can be used for twin online drives between cloning activities.

    C’mon Peter. You’re of bad beliefs, don’t you ?
    How can you compare a software cloning tool with a hardware cloning tool ?
    Let’s say you have a hard drive with 3 partitions : Windows system, data 1 (work files) and data 2 (private files).
    Try to explain us how you can just clone the Windows system ONLY, with your dual sata dock ?
    You can’t. Because it’s not possible using a hardware cloning tool.

    But ok, maybe HDD Pro can be “not so easy to use” software. Ok ok. But “if you don’t know what you are
    about to do”, then do not use it.

    As I have dual sata cloning dock too, I only use it to “rough” clone a disk to another disk, no matter how
    many partitions are there.
    But when I just need to clone (or copy) a simple partition from a multi-partition disk, I use software.

    #13903983 Reply | Quote

    Peter Blaise

    [@HarFanG] Thanks, but no one wants to clone a partition, as few folks even know what or why a partition is.

    Everyone wants to clone a disk, because that’s about the sophistication anyone needs:

    – swap in a new drive in for the old drive coming out, for repair or upgrade,
    – copy the good drive over a blank drive to use the clone drive to re-setup a second computer,
    – keep a perfect drive with all installations as a master to make copies for each subsequent computer or repair.

    I’ve been doing this for 40+ years, and have absolutely no desire to clone a partition, ever, never have, and never will.

    Anyone who repartitions a drive to have separate boot and system versus DATA partitions does not understand disks nor disk performance.

    But if someone can’t figure out how to drag-and-drop DATA from one disk to another without software … well then, they just like making work for themselves.

    Ya see, non-program data storage does not need any special software to clone it.

    Only booting and installed REGISTERED programs and their REGISTERED DATA directories, and manufacturer’s and OS boot and support and troubleshooting and diagnostic and reinstall partitions, need cloning software.

    Otherwise, please explain why drag-and-drop is not all anyone needs to “clone” simple DATA storage.

    Thanks for sharing.
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    Meta topic: SERIOUSLY, captcha is using AUDIO now, so SOS is no longer safe for work?
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    #13904788 Reply | Quote

    Peter Blaise

    Okay, on the 3rd attempt I chose the sector-by-sector option, and again it only got one partition, ignoring the “system reserved” partition, and worse, claimed it failed ( yet is was as successful at getting only one of two partitions as the non-sector-by-sector “clone” option ), AND it created a new disk unique ID, so it cannot even replace the original drive because it cannot actually clone the original drive … without manually re-creating the unique ID using other software, such as Microsoft Windows DiskPart … and I still see absolutely no way to clone the “system reserved” partition.

    Hasleo EasyUEFI WinToHDD is a TOOL for cloning … something … the way a screwdriver is a tool for automotive engine rebuilding … not.

    That is, you need a whole bunch of other tools, and the others are all better, smarter, more complete, accurate, and appropriate, that is, the others are all better at actually cloning not only a working drive, but at cloning ALL partitions on working drive.

    Whatever Hasleo EasyUEFI WinToHDD is good for, the makers can’t even tell us and show us.
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    #13904983 Reply | Quote

    Peter Blaise

    And it will wipe out an attached USB drive without warning.

    But don’t worry, because they offer free data recovery software to make up for their wiping out an attached USB drive without warning.

    SMH
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    #13905715 Reply | Quote

    Peter Blaise

    More?

    I selected the option to build a Windows installation USB, then rebooted from it, wondering how it would know I’m installing Dell Windows 7 64 Pro.

    Nothing to worry about, the supposed Windows re-install USB booted ( surprise ! ), but did absolutely nothing but ask for a source.

    It HAD a source when I built the USB by running FROM a Dell Windows 7 64 Pro, duh.

    But Hasleo EasyUEFI WinToHDD could not actually create a Windows re-install USB.

    Who are they? From their website:

    About Us
    Hasleo software (formerly called EasyUEFI Development Team) was established in 2012, all our team members have rich experience in software development, we are committed to develop the system tools software, and we aim to provide high quality and professional software to our users.
    Currently, we have accumulated over 6,000,000 wonderful users, covering over 160 countries and regions.
    We will never stop moving forward.
    Hasleo is constantly trying to grow with its dedication to user’s satisfaction and its provision of cutting-edge technology.
    Thus, we will keep improving the functions and performance of our products.
    We believe that with your support, Hasleo will become stronger and stronger.
    The commitment of Hasleo is providing the best and most convenient programs for users with high tech.
    The essence of our work is to spare no effort to make software more innovative and easy-to-use.

    Registered through Xin Net Technology Corporation, IANA ID: 120, URL: http :// www. xinnet. com Whois Server: whois. paycenter. com. cn

    And stories like “… Xin Net came in at the top spot on a list of the most abused registrars …” and “… recommended to ICANN that the Registrar Xin Net Technology Corporation be issued a Breach Notice and be prevented from registering new domains until they can demonstrate effective compliance. The expediency of this cannot be understated because of the serious public health and safety risk posed by the continued population of fake online pharmacies by Xin Net registrants …” and “… Xin Net Technology Corporation (“Xin Net”) is in breach of its Registrar Accreditation Agreement …” and speculation about reverse hacking Microsoft Bitlocker, and so on.

    It does kind of feel like NSA hack tools with a naive GUI front end.

    What has SOS gotten itself into?
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    #13910877 Reply | Quote

    HarFanG

    [@Peter Blaise]
    Well. Not sure if you’re serious or sort of kind of a troll.

    First, don’t believe everybody’s thinking like you, you’re wrong.

    Second, copying a whole data disk only using ” Windows drag’n’drop” is silly.
    Cloning the whole thing is way better.

    Third, I’m happy to know that “You’ve been doing this for 40+ years“.
    Let me check : woohoo, this put us back in late 1970’s.
    You had a Sinclair ZX80 ? Lol.

    My final though : you’re thinking you’re a smart man. Sorry, you’re not. Because you mix “potatoes and bananas”.
    A software can only do what its purpose was programmed. And not : “it can do more than that, by luck”…
    In France, we have a sentence : “if you don’t know what it is, then you don’t really need it”.

    #13931473 Reply | Quote

    Gene

    Many thanks to Peter Blaise for his regular and knowledgeable comments on various software products here. It makes up for the generally useless commentary of the house (practically shill) “reviewers”, on each front page. I think he nailed it in his post #13903983. I’m just a hobbyist user, but I’ve been doing this since the dawn of the IBM PC. The replies of the fellow I take to be a developer’s rep seem pretty transparent.

    Have to partly disagree with you Peter, in that I’ve been cloning both whole hard drives and individual partitions (the OS “boot drive” partition, in particular) for a long time now. Also using a few different OSes, not just successive editions of Windows. I always thought that the Windows-introduced “standard” of dumping everything — OS, programs, program data & storage — into one C: partition was terribly stupid, so I’ve never gone along with that.

    Anyway, thanks again for your insights into which products are worth our bothering with, and which not !

    [I hope SoS is not continuing those unfortunate message procedures that make it tremendously difficult to post here . . . . ]

    #13931657 Reply | Quote

    david

    A thousand thanks to you, Peter Blaise, for investing all the time that you do to give us readers meaningful reviews. They are quite informative and very helpful. More power to you!

    #13953474 Reply | Quote

    Alfonso

    when try to register it says “The License key has been disabled”…what can I do…?…please help..

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